#Real life vs. Fantasy

[holmsister]

The way some people are really. Saw people talking about how Kiki and Kaka being brown is 'tokenism' months ago still haven't recovered...

Thistle: POC, white family, transracial "adoption" (long-lived child > short-lived family)

Kabru: POC, white family, transracial adoption (short-lived child > long-lived mother)

Kiki and Kaka: POC, white family, transracial adoption (short-lived children > long-lived parents)

Like. Is this too subtle for you still do you need like. A Venn diagram. Which would be a circle

[a-dinosaur-a-day]

It's not a dino thing, but this ark thing reminds me of the antipathy I have for Jean M. Auel's Clan of the Cave Bear series, which is just *screaming biting maiming and throwing up*

I'm a paleoanthropologist and prehistoric archaeologist and it just makes me furious. The worst part is if you look the books up, they say 'thoughtfully researched.' She's an erotica author who visited Altamira and then wrote her books.

Also, she characters are neanderthals (what's happening in the books would have to be ~90kya, though I doubt she knows that), and Altamira is only 30kya

oh I can only imagine how terrible that book series is for you, I'm so sorry. holy shit.

[amywritesthings]

with the american election day looming (my anxieties have been tied to that for weeks now) i just want to remind my fellow americans to take it easy on themselves and don't forget their routines/self care outlets for mental health as this week is going to be really nerve-wrecking and scary.

also vote. for the love of fucking god, vote.

[rrat-king]

Personally I think even if he was "just" there to kill a different innocent person it still proves he's an asshole because he would be completely fucking over the girl he supposedly has a crush on's academic chances.

oh for sure he sucks. but i was just pointing out that there is a difference between like… wanting to screw over a girl you like so she can’t graduate vs like actively wanting her dead. though i suppose if he knew that kipperlilly was stealing the revivify crystals that would end with adaine dead anyway with no one surviving the last stand before.

but again, he could have just thought kipperlilly was there to kill the proctor not knowing that she would steal the crystals and thinking the proctor wouldn’t super die, he would just die enough to hurt the bad kids academically.

the fact that we dont know for sure is what’s makes this so interesting and infuriating, plus the rage that kipperlilly seems infested with along with the existence of devils nectar makes the idea of reality and truth hard to grasp.

this is actually me being an accidental rat grinders defender cuz i can’t get them out of my head so sorry

[short-wooloo]

"Lucas based SW off of the Vietnam war-"

No, Lucas compared the conduct/strategy of the conflict of the Galactic Civil War (original trilogy) to Vietnam, one side being more numerical than the other who uses guerrilla tactics to even the odds, it's an aesthetic, the conflict(s) of Star Wars are not the Vietnam War, Star Wars is good vs evil, light against darkness, selflessness against selfishness

It's fantasy for crying out loud

[blujayonthewing]

[guy who lives in lowkey constant fear of being flanderized and infantalized and flattened and misunderstood and not taken seriously as an entire human person with complex thoughts and feelings in real life] yeah I dunno why I feel so strongly and get so defensive about Fantasy Racism and fantasy-race stereotyping it's just a really big sticking point for me for some mysterious reason

[sysig]

You could stay forever, if you wanted (Patreon)

[ohbandera]

sona vs artist owo

[ztenzila]

COSPLAY versus AI of

Ztenzila !!!

WHO WINS ... you decide ?

[there-are-many-ways-to-smile]

I’m just gonna say it. I miss child endangerment. 

Hear- hear me out.

Only in movie’s through, children in movies just aren’t in dangerous situations like they used to be anymore and honestly it kind of sucks.

Like take Hocus Pocus 2 and the sequels to Jumanji for example: The sisters didn’t try to kill one child in the second movie and in Jumanji 2 & 3 the teens had avatars, which I’ve said before is boring.

[kashilascorner]

just watched notting hill which is supposed to be like an epitome of a good romcom and... Well. Let's just say i highly disagree

[jujuistrulyoutrageous]

so I'm back to battling which written WIP I am going to work on because part of me really enjoys the complex fantasy world I built at 16 and the other is drawn to the slice-of-life piece that I've been working on since I left my now ex-husband

the fantasy story's main drawback is that it is very much a violence-based story: the main character is defending her world with her powers, which places her in a lot of physical danger and she sees a lot of death and destruction throughout the narrative, which is really what I'm commenting on - the desensitization of the public to violence and how that affects us - but like ... it's so mentally taxing, and I'm not sure I'm adding anything of further value than other novels/movies/TV shows haven't already provided

the slice-of-life just isn't as fully developed and doesn't have as strong a voice as I would like, which requires a lot more time and preparation, but it also provides me a place of healing and coziness (think Schitt's Creek meets Parks and Rec) that can tackle tough issues like marital abuse, the current political climate, generational trauma, etc., through a place of understanding and love

I just ... I just don't know which one to focus on right now

[tearlessrain]

please help me- i used to be pretty smart but i’m having so much trouble grasping the concept of diegetic vs non-diegetic bdsm!

gfkjldghfd okay first of all I'm sorry for the confusion, if you're not finding anything on the phrase it's because I made it up and absolutely nobody but me ever uses it, but I haven't found a better way to express what I'm trying to say so I keep using it. but now you've given me an excuse to ramble on about some shit that is only relevant to me and my deeply inefficient way of talking and by god I'm going to take it.

SO. the way diegetic and non-diegetic are normally used is to talk about music and sound design in movies/tv shows. in case you aren't familiar with that concept, here's a rundown:

diegetic sound is sound that happens within the world of the movie/show and can be acknowledged by the characters, like a song playing on the stereo during a driving scene, or sung on stage in Phantom of the Opera. it's also most other sounds that happen in a movie, like the sounds of traffic in a city scene, or a thunderclap, or a marching band passing by. or one of the three stock horse sounds they use in every movie with a horse in it even though horses don't really vocalize much in real life, but that's beside the point, the horse is supposed to be actually making that noise within the movie's world and the characters can hear it whinnying.

non-diegetic sound is any sound that doesn't exist in the world of the movie/show and can't be perceived by the characters. this includes things like laugh tracks and most soundtrack music. when Duel of Fates plays in Star Wars during the lightsaber fight for dramatic effect, that's non-diegetic. it exists to the audience, but the characters don't know their fight is being backed by sick ass music and, sadly, can't hear it.

the lines can get blurry between the two, you've probably seen the film trope where the clearly non-diegetic music in the title sequence fades out to the same music, now diegetic and playing from the character's car stereo. and then there are things like Phantom of the Opera as mentioned above, where the soundtrack is also part of the plot, but Phantom of the Opera does also have segments of non-diegetic music: the Phantom probably does not have an entire orchestra and some guy with an electric guitar hiding down in his sewer just waiting for someone to break into song, but both of those show up in the songs they sing down there.

now, on to how I apply this to bdsm in fiction.

if I'm referring to diegetic bdsm what I mean is that the bdsm is acknowledged for what it is in-world. the characters themselves are roleplaying whatever scenarios their scenes involve and are operating with knowledge of real life rules/safety practices. if there's cnc depicted, it will be apparent at some point, usually right away, that both characters actually are fully consenting and it's all just a planned scene, and you'll often see on-screen negotiation and aftercare, and elements of the story may involve the kink community wherever the characters are. Love and Leashes is a great example of this, 50 Shades and Bonding are terrible examples of this, but they all feature characters that know they're doing bdsm and are intentional about it.

if I'm talking about non-diegetic bdsm, I'm referring to a story that portrays certain kinks without the direct acknowledgement that the characters are doing bdsm. this would be something like Captive Prince, or Phantom of the Opera again, or the vast majority of bodice ripper type stories where an innocent woman is kidnapped by a pirate king or something and totally doesn't want to be ravished but then it turns out he's so cool and sexy and good at ravishing that she decides she's into it and becomes his pirate consort or whatever it is that happens at the end of those books. the characters don't know they're playing out a cnc or D/s fantasy, and in-universe it's often straight up noncon or dubcon rather than cnc at all. the thing about entirely non-diegetic bdsm is that it's almost always Problematic™ in some way if you're not willing to meet the story where it's at, but as long as you're not judging it by the standards of diegetic bdsm, it's just providing the reader the same thing that a partner in a scene would: the illusion of whatever risk or taboo floats your boat, sometimes to extremes that can't be replicated in real life due to safety, practicality, physics, the law, vampires not being real, etc. it's consensual by default because it's already pretend; the characters are vehicles for the story and not actually people who can be hurt, and the reader chose to pick up the book and is aware that nothing in it is real, so it's all good.

this difference is where people tend to get hung up in the discourse, from what I've observed. which is why I started using this phrasing, because I think it's very crucial to be able to differentiate which one you're talking about if you try to have a conversation with someone about the portrayal of bdsm in media. it would also, frankly, be useful for tagging, because sometimes when you're in the mood for non-diegetic bodice ripper shit you'd call the police over in real life, it can get really annoying to read paragraphs of negotiation and check-ins that break the illusion of the scene and so on, and the opposite can be jarring too.

it's very possible to blur these together the same way Phantom of the Opera blurs its diegetic and non-diegetic music as well. this leaves you even more open to being misunderstood by people reading in bad faith, but it can also be really fun to play with. @not-poignant writes fantastic fanfic, novels, and original serials on ao3 that pull this off really well, if you're okay with some dark shit in your fiction I would highly recommend their work. some of it does get really fucking dark in places though, just like. be advised. read the tags and all that.

but yeah, spontaneous writer plug aside, that's what I mean.

[a-story-teller]

Had another dream story idea and it's BAD out here y'all. My subconscious said "you don't go for sad old white men yaoi? Well here's one and you have to care about it so much. Good luck"

[howifeltabouthim]

Although Judith lived physically in the present, she lived mentally in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century novels, in fairy tales, and in classic women's pictures. These artifacts from the past were more real to her than her own life, which had been nothing but an endless source of misery. The Judith who lived in material reality had been self-hating and unhappy, awkward and sad, unattractive and unloved; but the Judith who read books and watched movies could be anything she wanted to be.

Anna Biller, from Bluebeard's Castle

[casper-perry]

Walking With My Eyes Open

author:

Killthespare

summary: “I’m dying,” Senkuu said in the same tone he used for minor inconveniences.   Or, in other words, Senkuu gets a fun new experiment by way of contracting lethal Hanahaki Disease and somehow Gen’s still the one who suffers.